On 23 Mar 2020, at 17:47, Brent Martin <brentmartinlegal@gmail.com> wrote:See para 11.13 of this guide
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/648813/crm-14-faq.pdf
I had many arguments with the LAA about this years ago during the development of the e-portal. They wanted wet signatures only.
But I won, and they agreed to this!
Brent
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Subject: Re: Suggested Emergency Protocol during COVID-19 Outbreak from the LCCSA
The LAA already accept digital signatures on ipad etc. I was on the user group years ago that got this through!
Brent
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Subject: Re: Suggested Emergency Protocol during COVID-19 Outbreak from the LCCSAScanning a signed online form with your mobile phone is another option.
A digital signature via iPad or Adobe PDF should suffice, we should suggest this.
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Maybe they could be asked to compromise and accept a WhatsApp snap of the signed declaration on the basis that holding onto the (inevitably & de facto) contaminated original would be seriously prejudicial to file handlers, including auditors.John Middlehurst
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Subject: RE: Suggested Emergency Protocol during COVID-19 Outbreak from the LCCSASurely it is time for the LAA to accept our legal aid applications without a signed declaration! They check the case is real and not a figment of our imagination via the court listingsAshley Smith & Co LimitedRomer House132 Lewisham High StreetSE13 6EETel: 020 8609 6711/6710CONFIDENTIAL CLAUSEIMPORTANT - This email and any attachments are intended solely for the use of the intended receipient. It may contain private and confidential information or material that is privileged. If it has come to you in error you must take no action based on it, nor must you copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error.This Firm is Authorised and Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority No: 654874From: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk> On Behalf Of Claire Anderson
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Subject: Re: Suggested Emergency Protocol during COVID-19 Outbreak from the LCCSAI may have missed a discussion re press coverage on your stand Bruce - is moni notified? And Phillipa?
Sent from my iPhoneOn 23 Mar 2020, at 07:41, Bruce Reid (via members list) <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk> wrote:
Thanks for the input all of you. Go to sleep!Looks like I am spending the morning in the advocates room in my gas mask reading the guardian.I can feel an Lccsa Bruce Reid Advocate back page column coming on.""Ok , Susan Acland-Hood - you and me, outside, now! "Will post how I get on. Thanks for the support.On Sun, 22 Mar 2020, 23:19 Peter Fernando, <vpfco@btinternet.com> wrote:Not seen a CV -19 form . From what the experts say the virus has to travel from one human to another ,either directly-spittle ,sneeze or indirectly by touching a surface . So, a through a plastic screen partition ,it should be safe. Legal aid e-form needs to be wiped with bleach ,so quick pic and into a bin for disposal. Given the risks, it is either going to be the very serious matters or walk out. Once a few of us get it ,there will be voluntary solicitors available as they will only be spreaders if they do not follow proceduresOn 22 Mar 2020, at 22:21, Bruce Reid (via members list) <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk> wrote:I am custody Duty tommow at Croydon with 2 own clients. Anyone know what a CV risk assessment form looks like? I bet there is no such thing, Given that, I dont think its safe for me to even see them.Input anyone? I am quite happy to walk out - not before telling the Court why.....Bruce ReidOn Sun, 22 Mar 2020 at 22:12, Sara Boxer <sarsboxer@gmail.com> wrote:Suggested Emergency Protocol during COVID-19 Outbreak
During the current epidemic, the criminal justice community must do what we can to keep the justice system going, but in a way which does not ignore the pleas from NHS workers, who are risking their lives to keep us safe.
In order to stem the spread of the virus, our courts and police stations must urgently adopt the following measures:
1. Delay non-urgent cases
Adjourn non-urgent criminal cases for 2 months. Criteria for ‘non urgent’ to be agreed with professional bodies, Senior Judiciary, HMCTS and MOJ.2. Adopt remote hearings
Urgent hearings to be temporarily conducted by video or telephone where possible so long as fair trial rights are maintained. These technologies to be urgently improved and expanded to allow non-urgent hearings to be phased back after 2 months.
3. Prioritise arrest cases
Arrests to be reserved for essential cases only, with an increased use of street bail. Voluntary interviews and postal requisitions to be delayed where possible.4. Avoid physical attendance
If the detention of suspects is necessary, solicitors and appropriate adults to be permitted to attend via video-link, using facilities already in place for translators.5. Make facilities safe
Where physical attendance at court or police stations is required, Covid-19 risk assessment of defendants to be carried out and all relevant parties provided with a copy, regular deep cleans of all facilitates, and hand sanitiser made widely available.Sara Boxer07974 395 156PO BOX 72880LONDONN2 2EY
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