Fair point Mark and I too anticipate a bottleneck at some point.  I think it very unlikely though that freelancers would be asked to do remote work.  More likely, as Bridget says, we'll be looking to the new provisions on self employed for little succour - as wretched as that sounds.
Having had some recent spluttering clients in confined, unventilated areas, I'd be quite happy to go in a hazmat suit... Even a "Dr Beak" plague outfit would be an improvement.

That aside, I've noticed how custody vary greatly in how accommodating they are prepared to be. I've had to insist a client was sanitised before coming to me. A mask on him would've been better. Eyes didn't roll but there was a flicker of annoyance at my request.
Custody staff vary - some offer sanitiser, some keep it well away from the desk and keep quiet. Although they have to deal with detainees front line too, they don't sit in sealed rooms with them.  I've often thought a partition wouldn't be the worst thing.

Meanwhile, back to hypochondria (hopefully)!

Lets be careful out there.

In solidarity

Russell
On Friday, 27 March 2020, 09:00:37 GMT, Mark Troman <marktroman@psplaw.co.uk> wrote:


Dear Russel and Bridget, we have not forgotten you and as we push for better remote practices at PS we are also pushing the LAA to pay attendance fees where advice is given about interviews remotely.  Hopefully some work will still come your way under those circumstance, if you are able to speak with firms you have closest ties with. Once restrictions are lifted their will be a bottle neck through the court system and we will need all hands on deck.  Hold on.

 

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From: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk>
Sent: 27 March 2020 08:54
To: RUSSELL NASH <russell.nash3@btinternet.com>
Cc: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk
Subject: Re: Law Society position

 

Russell, I too am a freelancer and, of course, we shouldn't be forgotten. But we must have unity amongst all of us. The new provisions on self employed should go some way to assist. If we as freelancers take up the slack, we are breaking ranks and that will defeat the object.

We have to have a united position as a profession, employed or self employed, and we need some proper support from the Law Society.

 

 

 

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On 27 Mar 2020, at 08:46, RUSSELL NASH <russell.nash3@btinternet.com> wrote:

Plaintiff cry from the back:   It'd be great if freelance reps were kept in mind during this period.  Admittedly, there doesn't appear to be any solution that will ensure our survival at least for now - but when there is talk of unity I'm not sure where we fit in with that..

I say that fully appreciating that health comes first, of course.

 

Russell Nash

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Thursday, 26 March 2020, 20:37:27 GMT, Bridget Irving (via members list) <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk> wrote:

 

 

Completely agree with Mark about having a unified position, and about the position we and the Law Society should take . This really can't go on. What have the LS said? I couldn't see anything concrete.

 

 

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On 26 Mar 2020, at 09:13, Marian Purcell <missmpurcell@gmail.com> wrote:

Good advice mark

Keep safe everyone 



On 25 Mar 2020, at 22:15, Mark McKeever (via members list) <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk> wrote:



I feel that it’s about time the Law Society came forward with advice on a unified position that all firms and individuals can stand behind.

We should not have to be making individual judgements.

It’s impossible to do so.

My view is that the unified position should be, in compliance with medical and government advise, that there should be no face to face contact with clients at court or police station.

Police station advice should involve written disclosure being provided via cjsm followed by telephone only advice.

That advice should be for all clients to refuse to leave a cell for interview, so as not to put either themselves or officers at unnecessary risk of exposure to Coranvirus.

If there is then an attempt at cell hatch interview we should advice this be declined by silent refusal to participate, from the far side of the cell, facing the other way.

Court consultations should only be behind glass screens and only once written assurance, in respect of each facility has been given by HCMTS, as to appropriate and regular deep cleaning.

If instructions have to be taken in the presence of gaolers in the dock then, to preserve confidentiality, gaolers should be required to have headphones in and listening to their personal choice of audio entertainment. 

All courts should be distributing inforrmation as to what arrangements are in place, how many court rooms will be sitting and how many duty solicitors are required. There is no sense in more attending than required or anyone attending unpaid only to be sent away.

We may be “key workers” but there is no need for any unnecessary risk.

The real need is for the police and CPS to be making proportionate judgements as to the need to arrest, interview or refuse bail. 

However as a profession we need to be supported in making our, hopefully unified, contribution to tackling this unprecedented situation.

These are my thoughts, but I welcome an exchnge of views.

Mark McKeever

Solicitor Advocate

Consutant Solicitor - Birds Solicitors

 

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 21:22, Jonathan Black <jonathanb@bsbsolicitors.co.uk> wrote:

I think someone , maybe Matt Foot yesterday tweeted , “ Greg Powell for Lord chancellor “

 

If anyone should be listened to then it is GP who would have previously considered it heresy to leave a client in as police station without representation  , such are the risks .

 

No one can be blamed for asking around so that they can show they made efforts to get it covered but the time has come where we are perfectly justified in accounting to the LAA for not sending anyone in for reasons spelt out below

 

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From: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk [mailto:members@mail.lccsa.org.uk] On Behalf Of Greg Powell
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 20:23
To: Fadi Daoud <Fadi@lawsol.co.uk>; members@mail.lccsa.org.uk
Subject: Re: At the risk of upsetting everyone !

 

No no no .People of all ages are dying .It appears a crucial factor is viral load .The more often you are exposed the greater the load and the more likely you end up in an icu .

 

 

It is not safe .Dont ask people to do this .

 

 

 

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Fadi Daoud <Fadi@lawsol.co.uk>

Date: 25/03/2020 20:09 (GMT+00:00)

Subject: At the risk of upsetting everyone !

 

Anyone available to attend Wandsworth ?  

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