The NPCC and policing leads had their own concerns about the legality of remote interviews and the rep bodies fought for the exceptionality clauses to maximise options.  Had we attempted to list lots of scenarios, all we would have achieve was a limitation of scope.

 

I cannot set out when exceptional cases are triggered nor guarantee any outcome on assessment.  What I do advise is:

 

Have a clear record justifying why the case meets v.4

Agree it with a custody sergeant (not the OIC) and take a record of their name / shoulder or warrant number

Ask that they enter the agreement on the custody log and agree an exception number

As has always been the case, record the client’s informed consent.

 

The LAA have said they will fund cases according to the protocol so provided the reasons are sensible I do not believe they should criticise on audit.  It should be pandemic related as said below.

 

Kind regards,

 

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Subject: Transition from remote police station advice

 

The opening paragraph of the protocol is explicit that it solely exists to deal with COVID related issues.

 

Remote representation can not be authorised for any other reason.

 

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Dear Mark

 

Thank you for the latest guidance. Is it right to assume that EXCEPTION 3 would apply in circumstances where the solicitor has a vulnerability not connected with coronavirus ?, and in those circumstances do we need to obtain the details of the custody officer who allowed the interview and the grounds noted.

 

Problem is if we were to rely on this exception and on audit the file is zero rated.

 

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Shahnaz Sargent

 

On Monday, 18 October 2021, 11:35:52 BST, LCCSA <admin@lccsa.org.uk> wrote:

 

 

In last week’s email I mentioned how I had asked the LAA for a grace period to allow payment for work conducted after the 4th October 

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Dear SHAHNAZ

In last week’s email I mentioned how I had asked the LAA for a grace period to allow payment for work conducted after the 4th October according to the old version of the Joint Interim Interview Protocol. 

I had been made aware that many officers were carrying on as if nothing had changed and some advisors had advised and appeared in interviews remotely in good faith.

The LAA will allow claims that have been conducted this way provided they met v.3 and there is an explanation.  The authorisation by Mr Hardy was given on 14th October:

[the LAA] would be content to apply the approach that you have suggested for those instances where local forces have been operating under a previous version of the protocol. Providers should note the reasons for attendance on the file note.
I’m not going to be able to get amended lines on gov.uk particularly quickly, but I will send a guidance note around our operational teams, and I would be happy for you to convey the message to your members.

 
It would be advisable to renew internal guidance to staff to only conduct remote interviews under the narrow exceptions in version 4 from this point onwards,

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