On 10 Dec 2021, at 01:34, suba narayanasamy (via members list) <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk> wrote:
I am in agreement with Maggie and fully support that all interviews and court work should be done remotely.I was at Walworth police station yesterday representing an adult who required an AA. At my request the client was given a mask but he didn't want to wear it. I try to explain to him that it was for all our safety especially with due to the new variant, he said its rubbish and doesn"t believe in it. Eventually he puts the mask on but pulled onto his chin in effect not covering anything. We proceed to interview where client was on the shorter bench and officer had the longer one, and there was also one chair, which the AA and I were squabbling over to sit on ( I won), because neither one of us wanted sit next to the client as we'd be brushing sides.The client kept (deep) coughing throughout interview and made no attempt to pull his mask and/or cover his mouth.My client on Saturday used the elastic loop of the mask as hair band instead putting it on ( a story for another day). 🤱RegardsSuba KanthanBullivant law solicitors
On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 at 23:51, K K<kamal.elnour@gmail.com> wrote:Was alerted to this earlier by a colleague who stated that Maggie was a "Boss". Too right. Well done for taking the time when some of us were too weary with it all to do or say anything! 🙏🏽On Thu, 9 Dec 2021, 23:37 Hannah Sampson, <hannah@sampson-law.co.uk> wrote:I couldn’t agree more Ros.
Maggie does deserve our support and you couldn’t have put it better
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On 9 Dec 2021, at 23:28, Ros Olleson (via members list) <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk> wrote:
I think Maggie should have some support here and applause from us all for carrying this flag. Many of us shielded for 16 months or more due to underlying health issues and would have been out of business but for the ability to work remotely. The exceptionally difficult working requirements of the job and inadequate arrangements leave us particularly vulnerable, particularly given our clientele. Many of my clients refuse to wear masks on spurious grounds they are exempt and several have told me they are conspiracy theorists about Covid and anti vaccers. There were very few clients I dealt with who objected or whom I thought could not cope with remote attendance. I likewise will not go back to police stations yet as I also have underlying health issues and quite frankly have absolutely no confidence in the measures in place to ensure my safety. I have heard some dreadful anecdotal tales. At least at court we have some degree of control although in my court measures are perfunctory. I have been asking all week for sanitiser in the courts as they have all run out.
Whilst we all appreciate the tireless efforts made on entirely voluntary basis by our reps from LCCSA and CLSA we clearly are not being listened to.
RegardsRosRos Olleson solicitor07951 242 693
On 9 Dec 2021, at 20:13, Maggie Frame <maggie@brookelavingtonlaw.co.uk> wrote:
Sorry I said protocal 3 but it was not actually dealt with until protocal 4.
From: Maggie Frame [mailto:maggie@brookelavingtonlaw.co.uk]
Sent: 09 December 2021 19:58
To: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk
Subject: The proposed move to protocal 3 in police stations
Dear all,
Now is your opportunity to tell the LCCSA that the proposed move to protocal 3 is not sufficient and not in line with the governments introduction of plan b. It is simpley a move back to in person attendance for anyone who needs an AA. Thats a large number of our clients and those we deal with on duty.
We need plan B to be an exception under exception 3 as the governments states we should work from home. The other representative bodies has made a suggestion that plan b allows us to work remotely under this exception without the need to mopve to plan b see next email where I will forward what I received.
In my view we need to resume remote interviews for all clients as we did prior to protocal 3 as the government has moved back to working from home where possible to try and slow the spread of the new variant and to save christemas.
Please don’t just leave it as if you do it will be protocal 3 and in person attendance for most client as many need AA and in addition no exception for solictors self isolating as that was not dealt with until protocal 3.
This has to be sorted out immediately and urgently so please get writing and express your views to the LCCSA .
Noone else can sort this out for you so don’t leave it to your colleagues and then complain when nothing gets done for us.
My view is new protocal 5 incorporating the temporary measures introduced by government and allowing all interviews to be remote until the government moves away from plan b and to follow the advice of government as to when it is safe to resume protocal 4.
Please read the suggestion of other representative bodies which I will forward to all of you.
Kind Regards
Margaret Frame ( Partner )
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