Spot on Bruce. I totally agree. The last duty I had at Islington, there was an appropriate adult who never spoke to the client or took any part, who refused to wear a mask due to an unspecified medical exemption. The OIC was very insistent that a probationary officer sit in, in order to gain experience. I put my foot down. The OIC then suggested at the end of the first I/V that the appropriate adult [still without mask] sit and wait in the I/V room pending my next I/V, with the same appropriate adult. Most officers still seem to have no idea how to wear a mask or understand that Covid is, primarily, an airborne virus that circulates in increasing concentrations the longer one stays in a room with an infected person. Unbelievable!

On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 5:38 PM Bruce Reid (via members list) <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk> wrote:
This unsafe. Period.
I have elderly relatives never mind concerns for my own health or that of my clients and indeed police officers. At court i stand away from my prosecutor and I am usually 2 meters off from the rest of the court. If I move close to whisper to someone it's rarely more than 30 seconds for the exchange. Client interviews take place behind a glass screen or in a room with the windows open. At Croydon I am in greater danger from pollution than Covid-19.
That's safe enough.
It's not a 10 meter square room with no windows squashed up next to a coughing Client and an oic who has been wrestling with an unsavoury threatening behaviour arrest earlier.
I am not doing it. I don't care what my professional body says, nor whether my client gets my quality advice or not. I am not a medicin sans frontier nurse in a war zone.
The police can fix this. They did last year.
They choose not to.
If the bureaucracy in the law society and negotiation bodies can't accomplish this, we can; we don't go.

On Fri, 17 Dec 2021, 17:11 , <ashley@ashleysmith.org.uk> wrote:

I am absolutely with Keima here

 

What was “useful” within those discussions and “useful” to whom?

 

It is a bloody poor show from where I am standing.

 

And just what do the Law Society have to say about this?

 

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From: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk> On Behalf Of Keima Payton
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What are the next steps here?

 

Has another meeting been organised and when we say “possible” of course it is possible… it was done and the protocol was drafted – what exactly makes this impossible?

 

From: Keima Payton <keima@paytonslaw.co.uk> <clsa-egroup@talk.netatlantic.com>
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Subject: RE: PROTOCOL UPDATE – Friday 17th December 2021

 

This is not a pleasant update and I can save members the time reading it, as this is the important bit!

 

“We have had useful discussions with the other signatories to the protocol but despite strong support for a return to an earlier version of the protocol during the current pandemic of ‘omicron’, it has not been possible to agree to do so”.

 

No!!!! This was not a useful discussion a useful discussion would have yielded a result!

 

What did The Law Society say? Are they supporting a return to remote working or not?

 

Who said No?

 

Who said Yes?

 

Keima Payton

 

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