I agree ; we can refuse to go to police station but can we refuse to hand back the case when we are told by custody that we must hand case back. The Duty solicitor call centre will not re -deploy unless we agree. So they cant get someone else unless we do?
I personally think we should find a way to do this if the police wont let us stay safe. Any very clever amongst us provide us with a legal way to do this.? Maybe we should seek advice from Counsel.
The police seek to use the protocal to force us to attend. We cannot just choose to forgo all police station work so we need to use this against them.
Its is not that we are not prepared and able to deal with a case remotely it is that we are being prevented.
Can we not say I am dealing with this case. I have accepted this case and I am able to advice remotely and provide the necessary advice, Your police station is not safe for me to attend and your use of PPE etc is totally unacceptable so no I will not hand this case Back.Your rooms for consultation and interview rooms are totally inadequate.
After of course ensuring client is happy as it is their choice at this stage. I will attend remotely that way allowing you to fulfil your duty in providing a solicitor to those in custody.
I think our representative bodies are saying that they support us in theory, not attending but apart from that we are on our own as there is nothing they can do as the NPPC are in complete control of what the protocal will be.
I think though they should rethink this as we cannot achieve anything alone.
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From: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk [mailto:members@mail.lccsa.org.uk]
Sent: 17 December 2021 17:38
To: Ashley Smith
Cc: "Keima Payton"; LCCSA
Subject: Re: PROTOCOL UPDATE – Friday 17th December 2021
This unsafe. Period.
I have elderly relatives never mind concerns for my own health or that of my clients and indeed police officers. At court i stand away from my prosecutor and I am usually 2 meters off from the rest of the court. If I move close to whisper to someone it's rarely more than 30 seconds for the exchange. Client interviews take place behind a glass screen or in a room with the windows open. At Croydon I am in greater danger from pollution than Covid-19.
That's safe enough.
It's not a 10 meter square room with no windows squashed up next to a coughing Client and an oic who has been wrestling with an unsavoury threatening behaviour arrest earlier.
I am not doing it. I don't care what my professional body says, nor whether my client gets my quality advice or not. I am not a medicin sans frontier nurse in a war zone.
The police can fix this. They did last year.
They choose not to.
If the bureaucracy in the law society and negotiation bodies can't accomplish this, we can; we don't go.
On Fri, 17 Dec 2021, 17:11 , <ashley@ashleysmith.org.uk> wrote:
I am absolutely with Keima here
What was “useful” within those discussions and “useful” to whom?
It is a bloody poor show from where I am standing.
And just what do the Law Society have to say about this?
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From: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk> On Behalf Of Keima Payton
Sent: 17 December 2021 16:57
To: Members <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk>; Members <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk>
Subject: FW: PROTOCOL UPDATE – Friday 17th December 2021
What are the next steps here?
Has another meeting been organised and when we say “possible” of course it is possible… it was done and the protocol was drafted – what exactly makes this impossible?
From: Keima Payton <keima@paytonslaw.co.uk> <clsa-egroup@talk.netatlantic.com>
Sent: 17 December 2021 14:41
To: listA@lists.clsa.co.uk
Subject: RE: PROTOCOL UPDATE – Friday 17th December 2021
This is not a pleasant update and I can save members the time reading it, as this is the important bit!
“We have had useful discussions with the other signatories to the protocol but despite strong support for a return to an earlier version of the protocol during the current pandemic of ‘omicron’, it has not been possible to agree to do so”.
No!!!! This was not a useful discussion a useful discussion would have yielded a result!
What did The Law Society say? Are they supporting a return to remote working or not?
Who said No?
Who said Yes?
Keima Payton
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Sent: 17 December 2021 12:58
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Subject: PROTOCOL UPDATE – Friday 17th December 2021
Details on the CLSA website
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