That stance completely undermines the suggestion the insistence on remote for health and safety rather than other logistical or financial reasons.
It really needs to be all or none. Perhaps attendance in centrally defined circumstances such as murder or rape or vulnerability of Clients.
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From: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk>
On Behalf Of Dapo Olorunsola-Elias
Sent: 19 December 2021 21:40
To: "Maggie Frame" <maggie@brookelavingtonlaw.co.uk>; 'Keima Payton' <keima@paytonslaw.co.uk>
Cc: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk
Subject: Re: sign up for no back up!
We need to make our demand very clear! The main point is that, solicitors should have the choice of dealing with PS cases remotely where appropriate. Until such time we are listened to, no back ups!
From: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk> on behalf of Maggie Frame <maggie@brookelavingtonlaw.co.uk>
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 9:35 pm
To: 'Keima Payton'
Cc: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk
Subject: RE: sign up for no back up!
I will sign up for accepting no back –ups compelling the police to deal with the original solicitor and resolve matters with them alone.
Margaret Frame
From: Keima Payton [mailto:keima@paytonslaw.co.uk]
Sent: 19 December 2021 21:24
To: Dapo Olorunsola-Elias; ashley@ashleysmith.org.uk; '"Maggie Frame"'
Cc: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk;
listA@lists.clsa.co.uk
Subject: Re: sign up for no back up!
I think all firms should agree not to accept dscc back ups.
Contractually it won't do us harm and it won't hurt financially plus it will show the police what happens when we stand together - which we can easily
do on this small issue.
This isn't about whether we want to work remotely or not - its about choices being made for us by the police and whether we are going to let them push
us around!! I mean are we? It's getting hin edge of he wedge if we do!!!
It's similar to "no returns" for the bar and it will show everyone that we can stand together when we need to (which should help with CLAR negotiations
too!)
Who will sign up for no back up? We can all do our part here!
From: Dapo Olorunsola-Elias <Dapo.o@simonbethel.co.uk>
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 9:00:08 PM
To: Keima Payton <keima@paytonslaw.co.uk>;
ashley@ashleysmith.org.uk <ashley@ashleysmith.org.uk>; '"Maggie Frame"' <maggie@brookelavingtonlaw.co.uk>
Cc: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk>
Subject: Re: PROTOCOL UPDATE
With respect, I don’t think our representatives have adequately fought our corners. We can all make our voices heard loud and clear by putting our firms’ names on a Memo
jointly drafted by us as to the need to bring remote attendance back.
We can forward the memo or communiqué to LCCSA/CLSA, Law Society, our MPs, Health Secretary, Justice Secretary, Prime Minister…
That way, they will take us serious!
From:
members@mail.lccsa.org.uk <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk> on behalf of Keima Payton <keima@paytonslaw.co.uk>
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 4:24 pm
To: ashley@ashleysmith.org.uk; '"Maggie Frame"'
Cc: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk
Subject: Re: PROTOCOL UPDATE
100%
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Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2021 3:57:50 PM
To: '"Maggie Frame"' <maggie@brookelavingtonlaw.co.uk>
Cc: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk>
Subject: RE: PROTOCOL UPDATE
If as a profession we just once supported each other rather than some seeking to profit from another's "absence" we could end this nonsense very very quickly!
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From: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk> On Behalf Of Maggie Frame
Sent: 18 December 2021 16:02
To: lg@lpgreen.co.uk
Cc: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk
Subject: RE: PROTOCOL UPDATE
Lewis,
That is very unselfish of you.
You are absolutely right. If everyone did this I doubt you would have to give up your duties. This is probably the only way we can make the Police negotiate properly and if we all did it they could not function.
Its getting agreement that all will do this for a short time that is the problem.
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From: lg@lpgreen.co.uk [mailto:lg@lpgreen.co.uk]
Sent: 18 December 2021 15:19
To: Maggie Frame
Cc: 'Tara Olowu'; members@mail.lccsa.org.uk
Subject: Re: PROTOCOL UPDATE
Im my case I have notified my firm that I consider my safety to be
paramount and have told them to either re allocate all of my upcoming
Duty slots ( two between now and 1st Jan ) to someone prepared to take
the risks and if no one is prepared to internally to inform LAA we will
not be providing cover on the shifts so they can try to re allocate .
Maybe we should all ( or significant numbers ) do the same and if anyone
breaks ranks and Im sure some will maybe they will all get Covid and
/or have to self isolate.
Lewis Green
On 2021-12-18 08:06, Maggie Frame wrote:
> This won’t be pleasant to read but this is where we are.
>
> Thank you Tara, I think we all have to do this as a minimum but if
> only some refuse back up work those who cannot attend will just lose
> work.
>
> We are all very upset at being treated as if we are insignificant, of
> no value.
>
> We know this because we know what custody suites are like.
>
> Keima puts it very well; we are on our knees because anytime any
> government wants to take from us we have not as a group been able to
> stop it.
>
> The biggest issue we have is we have never been important to
> ordinary people; we are not the NHS, we represent, ‘criminals’, so
> if we choose to do this work, Hell mend us if we suffer.
>
> Until the government realises/accepts that we are an important part of
> the justice system we have no hope. No government , not this or the
> labour government when they were in power have seen us as anything but
> an inconvenience.
>
> Keima said it, the police dictate that we will attend the police
> station even though they are unsafe. No one can stop them.
>
> We are all just expected to lose work we can’t afford to lose, to
> try and persuade custody sargeants that the exception in protocol 4
> that they cannot keep us safe applies and deal remotely that way. That
> would be hilarious to observe if it was not such a serious situation.
>
> We are then told to tell the LAA and report back to those who are
> powerless to help us and imply that our assessment of risk is
> different. Read the LCCSA announcement again if you haven’t picked
> up on that.
>
> There is no one who we can ask to go into custody suites and force the
> police to organise them to ensure we are safe and we have to answer to
> so many,’ others’ who have nothing to do with what we do that we
> cannot just say no, I will represent my client, who is happy for me to
> do so and you will make it possible for me to see and hear my client
> whilst the government says we should work from home.
>
> The police in doing this are disregarding the governments
> announcements, because we are essential workers and so it is essential
> that we attend so our clients can see us, breath the same air as us
> otherwise justice cannot be served.
>
> The only way out of this is around the interpretation of seeing
> solicitor in person. This needs to be reconsidered in light of
> changes in technology and due to the pandemic at least until the
> pandemic ends.
>
> Unfortunately there is great fear that if we can deal remotely and
> fulfil this section of Pace the LAA who are just sitting back safely
> watching all of this might use it to take police work from us and give
> it to a few very large firms.
>
> This is a fear that is very real and is based on the fact that advice
> only work was centralised and awarded to 2 large firms. Tell me if I
> am wrong but none of us could work for these firms as advisors because
> we have no idea who they are.
>
> If any of you know there details pass them on so we can all go work
> for them and provide remote advice.
>
> There is fear running all through this whole sad story and it is
> because we are powerless.
>
> The Law society is really a regulatory body, they are not a union.
> They are very good at imposing regulations but not good at
> safeguarding us. They suggested that contracts only be awarded to
> large firms back in 2016-2017.
>
> The LAA agency followed this advice and failed and have since then
> adopted an extremely draconian regime designed to force firms out of
> this area or work. They have succeeded very well in doing this.
>
> The Law society demand that we ensure diversity, equality and our
> clients rights. These are paramount but for us; nothing.
>
> No equality, diversity and safeguarding for us. We are self-employed
> after all or your bosses are and they can safeguard you. That means
> no work and your boss taking the hit to keep you safe. Will they? Can
> they?
>
> Let’s consider where we are. The police will not budge unless they
> are compelled to, None of us know how many of us want to attend
> remotely or to have the stations redesigned with safe consultation
> rooms and interview rooms whilst this pandemic is escalating and the
> NHS is being placed at risk. Our representative bodies don’t seem
> to be able to think of anything they could do to help but seem rather
> reluctantly to be prepared to support us even though our risk
> assessment may be different. It begs the question , different from
> other solicitors or just them or just the police?
>
> I have personally researched any way that this could all be looked at
> by an outsider. It cannot. That I can’t get my head around as the
> police can be investigated for everything else except this but that is
> where we are.
>
> Public health England have no powers except to advice. The police
> think what they have is wonderful, perfect. They would they don’t
> even see the need to wear masks as the pandemic is gone; right?
>
> If we are going to refuse to take back up work that would work and
> force the police to deal with any solicitors request to work remotely
> under the 3rd exception in protocol 4 seriously but it would mean that
> all solicitors doing police station duty work would have to refuse
> back up work.
>
> If a case is in the middle of the night you might have a good chance
> of this but the Duty call centre just keeps going to the next
> solicitor so if anyone breaks this it fails. Chances are someone will
> take advantage.
>
> If our representative bodies were unions they would call on their
> members to refuse back up work and no one who was part of the union
> could take the case, but we are a professional body so we cannot do
> this. We are a professional body when it works against us and in
> reality slaves to them all; we have no control over what conditions we
> must work under.
>
> Any ideas as to how this can be fixed please fire away but it will
> take unity and that seems to be very lacking at the moment.
>
> One thing that is missing from Protocol 4 is any reference as to what
> happens if someone cannot attend during the current climate for health
> reasons or health concerns of those living with them. Exception 2
> might be able to be stated more clearly and cover some wider matters
> such as those. That might be a very small way the representative
> bodies could help.
>
> Some people want to go to police station and they can now but the
> exceptions under exception 2 need to be extended to ensure equality,
> diversity and safeguarding of our members. Perhaps the representative
> bodies could give some thought to that before the next meeting with
> the police. Which hopefully will be very soon.
>
> That might be something that can be achieved.
>
> Finally if by some miracle there is a move back to protocol 3 please
> don’t lose the right to self-isolate and any new exceptions under
> exception 2 of protocol 4 which was actually only added to the final
> protocol and completely absent in protocol 3 such as long covid,
> immuno suppressed solicitors or their family members.
>
> Consider also what happens if the government locksdown; a likely
> outcome of the police and others failing to follow government
> guidance. I estimate this will happen just in time for Christmas or
> early new year unless Boris Johnson is forced to resign and 1 of the
> other clowns replaces him. The rest of the conservatives think, like
> the police that everything is fine so that’s a very frightening
> proposition. There will be no lockdown if he is replaced. The
> infection rate will be well over 100,000 and no one knows what will
> happen to hospital admissions but even on best estimates the NHS will
> be overrun. As things are with the rate of infection doubling every 2
> days its likely to be overwhelmed no matter what we now do.
>
> As things are now unless there is a change to protocol we will still
> be expected to go to police station even if the country locksdown and
> as the police think their custody suites are controlled environments
> and perfectly safe we will not be allowed even then to work remotely.
>
> That’s it stated in black and white.
>
> All the Best
>
> Margaret Frame ( Partner )
>
> Brooke Lavington Law
>
> 17 – 21 George Street
>
> Croydon
>
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>
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> From: Tara Olowu [mailto:ao@aandalaw.co.uk]
> Sent: 18 December 2021 11:07
> To: Keima Payton
> Cc: ashley@ashleysmith.org.uk; Maggie Frame;
members@mail.lccsa.org.uk
> Subject: Re: PROTOCOL UPDATE – Friday 17th December 2021
>
> Don’t get me wrong! I totally agree with you guys . I am only doing
> the minimum. I have stopped accepting back up duty calls from the DSCC
> . They offered me 2 cases a few nights ago and were shocked when I
> refused.
>
> Regards
>
> Tara Olowu
>
> A & A Law Solicitors
>
> 32 St Olav’s Court
>
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>
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>
> On 18 Dec 2021, at 03:40, Keima Payton <keima@paytonslaw.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Putting the client first and being professional regardless and
>> despite how we are treated is why we are in this mess...
>>
>> We went from being well paid, highly regarded professionals to the
>> police being able to say "No" to The Law Society, LCCSA & CLSA & us
>> begging them not to place us on the front line & in danger - paid a
>> pittance & treated worse than our clients and like enemies of the
>> people!
>>
>> Spare me Tara!
>>
>> How us protecting ourselves (and our clients- finding it tricky to
>> see how any iv will be lawful) is a "Christmas present" more than
>> our complete (and repeated) capitulation!!!!! is unclear - do
>> explain it to me!!!
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>> To: ashley@ashleysmith.org.uk; '"Maggie Frame"'
>> Cc: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk
>> Subject: RE: PROTOCOL UPDATE – Friday 17th December 2021
>>
>> Best Christmas gift for the Met as they will have our clients all to
>> themselves without us constantly “ interrupting “ the
>> proceedings and giving “ bad “ advice !
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tara Olowu LL.B (Hons),LL.M
>>
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>>
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>> Sent: 17 December 2021 23:56
>> To: '"Maggie Frame"' <maggie@brookelavingtonlaw.co.uk>
>> Cc: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk
>> Subject: RE: PROTOCOL UPDATE – Friday 17th December 2021
>>
>> We could just all block the DSCC number on our phones over the
>> holiday period?
>>
>> Although “all” may be a problem of course
>>
>> Ros
>>
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>> Sent: 17 December 2021 19:19
>> To: 'Harvey Fox' <Harvey.Fox@freemanssolicitors.net>
>> Cc: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk
>> Subject: RE: PROTOCOL UPDATE – Friday 17th December 2021
>>
>> Usually here we are called by the duty solicitor call centre and
>> asked if we agree to give it up. I am suggesting that by then we
>> have done sufficient not to lose case without our consent. If you
>> just say when called I am not attending then yes the police will
>> have no alternative but to redeploy and you couldn’t argue about
>> it.
>>
>> From: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk [mailto:members@mail.lccsa.org.uk]
>> Sent: 17 December 2021 18:57
>> To: Bruce Reid; Maggie Frame
>> Cc: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk
>> Subject: PROTOCOL UPDATE – Friday 17th December 2021
>>
>> I am not sure what that achieves. The police just request cases are
>> redeployed if Solicitors fail to attend for any reason. May be more
>> problematic for police legally if an Own Client request but PACE
>> still deals with redeploying to Duty. The only way you achieve
>> anything is if you are confident that a large majority of firms
>> support you and will not accept the case as duty for own Clients or
>> back-up for duty Clients.
>>
>> Harvey Fox
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>> To: Maggie Frame <maggie@brookelavingtonlaw.co.uk>
>> Cc: LCCSA <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: PROTOCOL UPDATE – Friday 17th December 2021
>>
>> The NPCC may be in charge of it but if I accept a case, say I will
>> attend remotely and dont hand it back, then what happens?
>>
>> System gummed up and the interview potentially inadmissible?
>>
>> The minimum we need if the LS saying that it is professionally
>> acceptable to refuse unsafe conditions.
>>
>> let us see the colour of their money
>>
>> On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 at 18:18, Maggie Frame
>> <maggie@brookelavingtonlaw.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> I agree ; we can refuse to go to police station but can we refuse to
>> hand back the case when we are told by custody that we must hand
>> case back. The Duty solicitor call centre will not re -deploy unless
>> we agree. So they cant get someone else unless we do?
>>
>> I personally think we should find a way to do this if the police
>> wont let us stay safe. Any very clever amongst us provide us with a
>> legal way to do this.? Maybe we should seek advice from Counsel.
>>
>> The police seek to use the protocal to force us to attend. We
>> cannot just choose to forgo all police station work so we need to
>> use this against them.
>>
>> Its is not that we are not prepared and able to deal with a case
>> remotely it is that we are being prevented.
>>
>> Can we not say I am dealing with this case. I have accepted this
>> case and I am able to advice remotely and provide the necessary
>> advice, Your police station is not safe for me to attend and your
>> use of PPE etc is totally unacceptable so no I will not hand this
>> case Back.Your rooms for consultation and interview rooms are
>> totally inadequate.
>>
>> After of course ensuring client is happy as it is their choice at
>> this stage. I will attend remotely that way allowing you to fulfil
>> your duty in providing a solicitor to those in custody.
>>
>> I think our representative bodies are saying that they support us in
>> theory, not attending but apart from that we are on our own as there
>> is nothing they can do as the NPPC are in complete control of what
>> the protocal will be.
>>
>> I think though they should rethink this as we cannot achieve
>> anything alone.
>>
>> Kind Regards
>>
>> Margaret Frame ( Partner )
>>
>> Brooke Lavington Law
>>
>> 17 – 21 George Street
>>
>> Croydon
>>
>> Surrey
>>
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>> Sent: 17 December 2021 17:38
>> To: Ashley Smith
>> Cc: "Keima Payton"; LCCSA
>> Subject: Re: PROTOCOL UPDATE – Friday 17th December 2021
>>
>> This unsafe. Period.
>>
>> I have elderly relatives never mind concerns for my own health or
>> that of my clients and indeed police officers. At court i stand away
>> from my prosecutor and I am usually 2 meters off from the rest of
>> the court. If I move close to whisper to someone it's rarely more
>> than 30 seconds for the exchange. Client interviews take place
>> behind a glass screen or in a room with the windows open. At Croydon
>> I am in greater danger from pollution than Covid-19.
>>
>> That's safe enough.
>>
>> It's not a 10 meter square room with no windows squashed up next to
>> a coughing Client and an oic who has been wrestling with an
>> unsavoury threatening behaviour arrest earlier.
>>
>> I am not doing it. I don't care what my professional body says, nor
>> whether my client gets my quality advice or not. I am not a medicin
>> sans frontier nurse in a war zone.
>>
>> The police can fix this. They did last year.
>>
>> They choose not to.
>>
>> If the bureaucracy in the law society and negotiation bodies can't
>> accomplish this, we can; we don't go.
>>
>> On Fri, 17 Dec 2021, 17:11 , <ashley@ashleysmith.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>> I am absolutely with Keima here
>>
>> What was “useful” within those discussions and “useful” to
>> whom?
>>
>> It is a bloody poor show from where I am standing.
>>
>> And just what do the Law Society have to say about this?
>>
>> Ros
>>
>> Ashley Smith & Co Limited
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>>
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>> From: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk> On
>> Behalf Of Keima Payton
>> Sent: 17 December 2021 16:57
>> To: Members <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk>; Members
>> <members@mail.lccsa.org.uk>
>> Subject: FW: PROTOCOL UPDATE – Friday 17th December 2021
>>
>> What are the next steps here?
>>
>> Has another meeting been organised and when we say “possible” of
>> course it is possible… it was done and the protocol was drafted
>> – what exactly makes this impossible?
>>
>> From: Keima Payton <keima@paytonslaw.co.uk>
>> <clsa-egroup@talk.netatlantic.com>
>> Sent: 17 December 2021 14:41
>> To: listA@lists.clsa.co.uk
>> Subject: RE: PROTOCOL UPDATE – Friday 17th December 2021
>>
>> This is not a pleasant update and I can save members the time
>> reading it, as this is the important bit!
>>
>> “We have had useful discussions with the other signatories to the
>> protocol but despite strong support for a return to an earlier
>> version of the protocol during the current pandemic of
>> ‘omicron’, it has not been possible to agree to do so”.
>>
>> No!!!! This was not a useful discussion a useful discussion would
>> have yielded a result!
>>
>> What did The Law Society say? Are they supporting a return to remote
>> working or not?
>>
>> Who said No?
>>
>> Who said Yes?
>>
>> Keima Payton
>>
>> From: Sue Johnson <clsasue@googlemail.com>
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>> Sent: 17 December 2021 12:58
>> To: listA@lists.clsa.co.uk
>> Subject: PROTOCOL UPDATE – Friday 17th December 2021
>>
>> Details on the CLSA website
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>>
https://www.clsa.co.uk/protocol-update-friday-17th-december-2021/
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>> Sue Johnson
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