I agree but they re giving us a choice this time and I would rather keep the 10,000 PPE and lose rates on s.38's and accept 8.75% cut. We make nothing on PS and MC s cases anyway.
Tony MarshallSolicitorAlexander JohnsonSent from my iPhoneThe problem is Tony that there is little unity in London and it is the same few people each time who get left to organise such opposition, also we can object all we like, the MOJ do not listen
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From: members@mail.lccsa.org.uk [mailto:members@mail.lccsa.org.uk] On Behalf Of Tony Marshall
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Subject: RE: MOJ consultation on LGFS and Court appointees
What a joke!!! This is all the doing of Francis Fitzgibbon of The Bar Council who has pushed for these changes!!! I agree we object to these changes and do everything we can to thwart them
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Subject: RE: MOJ consultation on LGFS and Court appointees
Surely this is a boycott that everyone will agree on at last – for the reasons given by Bruce.
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Subject: Re: MOJ consultation on LGFS and Court appointees
We dont need a boycott, firms wont take them on....It will pay less than a summary trial and you cant get cover for those half the time given the going rate even now.
On 10 February 2017 at 14:13, Jonathan Black <jonathanb@bsbsolicitors.co.uk> wrote:
No one will do s38 at these rates and they will become the bread and butter of court based touts which will be tolerated .
Both proposals come with the ultimatum - accept or we introduce second cut !
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On 10 Feb 2017, at 14:03, Tim Walker <twalker@smw-law.co.uk> wrote:Also see Part I para 9:
‘we propose reducing the 10,000 threshold for PPE and moving claims for pages in excess of 6,000 into the special preparation provisions. It is in cases with 6,000 or more pages that we have seen a significant increase in PPE caused in in part by electronic evidence now coming within the definition of PPE, most commonly mobile phone or computer downloads in serious drugs and fraud cases. Applying the special preparation provisions will mean that where there are more than 6,000 pages we will allow payment for work reasonably and actually undertaken.’
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Sent: 10 February 2017 13:32
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Subject: MOJ consultation on LGFS and Court appointees
5. We consider that, despite the fact that this can be a sensitive task, the work of court appointees under section 38 or section 4A is in reality no different to that undertaken by lawyers acting for a defendant under legal aid. Therefore we propose capping such costs at legal aid rates, as we have already done in relation to Defendants’ Costs Orders. There is no reason to pay a premium for this work just because payment is made from central funds rather than the legal aid budget. The work involved and time required to prepare is little different from many legal aid cases.
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